I have to say that one of my best and most beneficial moves I've made in this business is to form alliances with my "competitors" rather then cut each other's throat. Today I had no jobs, and went out to help @Martin Sanchez on a couple jobs he had. I still took calls and booked jobs for this weekend for myself. Learned a few things as I always do, and had a fun time. Once when I was sitting around and talking with Martin, he got a call from a customer. When Martin told them the price for his services, they told him they'd think about it. We continued our conversation, my phone rang, and it was Martin's custy. My CL Hack but* booked the job and off Martin and I went to do the job together. Ironically Martin and I are really each other's biggest competitors. We work the same jobs in the same areas. Yet we are the best of friends and both do well providing for out families. Today we were at the local carpet supply store. Ran into a couple of other carpet cleaners. Exchanged business cards, informed them of this forum, shook hands, and went out separate ways. Would much rather do this then mad dog each other. So just as @TheEyeball and @Torrey W , @Jeff Kondra and Todd, @Kip Stoltzfus AKA $1KaDay and @212.0, and many others have done. Martin and I will continue to be Co operating Competitors.